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truck69 · 10-06-2003, 04:52 PM

Wondering how many people out there have put together their own websites (either for your truck or Family)and what program did you use? I am learning HTML but I would think
it would be much better just just buy a program at Best Buy and drag and drop all my items and create it that way. Any info would be great.

Thanks.

**GMCPaul** · 10-06-2003, 04:56 PM

We use Microsoft Frontpage 2002
GMCPaul

*rickspickuppart* · 10-06-2003, 05:02 PM

I use netscape composer and cute HTML and then Cute FTP for transfering (all free programs except for the cute programs I did pay 20.00 to register them)

jamis · 10-06-2003, 05:09 PM

Any of the MS proggies for making the page are easy to use and Flash FTP to upload.

**Palf70Step** · 10-06-2003, 05:11 PM

Mostly Microsoft FrontPage 2002. Also, whatever stuff they have for my freeservers site. I do most of my photopages with ACDSee, then transfer/merge the files into whatever I am using for the rest of the work. I'm still experimenting with the web page side of things so who knows if that is a good combo or not....works so far.

MrShelley · 10-06-2003, 05:12 PM

Dreamweaver. Period.

FrontPage has too many Windows-centric quirks. Web pages should adhere to standards so any browser can view them regardless of which operating system they are running.

If you have any experience with Adobe programs (Photoshop, Illustrator, etc.) look into GoLive. It's comparable to Dreamweaver.

Yes, these programs cost more, but...you get what you pay for.

If you're learning HTML, you must be somewhat serious about learning web design. Check out the serious tools.

Zumo · 10-06-2003, 05:57 PM

Dreamweaver. Some of my work:
www.softerfury.com
www.hurstracingteam.com
www.aisfg.com
www.zumografx.com

MrShelley · 10-06-2003, 06:13 PM

Zumo-

Nice work!

**COBALT** · 10-06-2003, 06:53 PM

I use my 8 fingers and 2 thumbs. I guess I'm just used to being a VI junkie.

The only IDEs I use (Integrated Development Environment) are NetBeans and TogetherSoft, which integrate language development, the web and EJB containers, the modeling tools, and the documentation for reference. They can generate things like HTML, but I usually just write it by hand, because I HATE generated formatting. HTML should be clean and easy to read:

Code:

<html>
  <head>
    <title>Example HTML</title>
  </head>
  <body bgcolor="#CCCCCC" link="#000000" vlink="#666699">
    <br>
    <font size="5" face="Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b>Members List</b></font>
    <br>
    <br>
    <table cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" width="500">
	<tr bgcolor="#CCCCFF">
	<td align="left" width=20%"><font size="2"
	  face="Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b>User Name</b></font></td>
	<td align="left" width="30%"><font size="2"
	  face="Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b>Number of Posts</b></font></td>
	<td align="left" width="50%"><font size="2"
	  face="Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b>Email Address</b></font></tc>
	</tr>
      <tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
	<td align="left" width="20%"><font size="2"
	  face="Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">COBALT</font></td>
	<td align="left" width="30%"><font size="2"
	  face="Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">3889</font></td>
	<td align="left" width="50%"><a href="mailto:cobalt_chevy@yahoo.com"><font size="2"
	  face="Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">cobalt_chevy@yahoo.com</font></a></td>
	</tr>
    </table>
  </body>
</html>

dmurphy68 · 10-06-2003, 08:38 PM

I use dreamweaver also but mine is not as good as Zumo's

www.wickedcustoms1.com

Darren

Cat Fuzz · 10-06-2003, 11:00 PM

Dreamweaver is, by far, the best WYSIWYG web page editor. I've used Front Page and canned it because it was messing up certain scripts, on purpose.

miket · 10-06-2003, 11:51 PM

Cobalt's a SHOWOFF!!!!....he..he..he...he...

I used Microsoft Frontpage but to use any of the advanced features....the site that hosts it must use FrontPage Extensions....

I don't really like it but I am not a developer and don't want to spend the time to learn HTML.

drink2mny · 10-07-2003, 12:11 AM

I have used Arachnophilia..
It is a free prog on cnet.com
I have made these 2 sites with it and wasn't very hard..

Blackbirds Custom Trucks

1964 Oldsmobile 442

I also have one made just for family to see pictures of our daughter..

for uploading I just use WS_ftp

mrein3 · 10-07-2003, 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by COBALT
I use my 8 fingers and 2 thumbs. I guess I'm just used to being a VI junkie.

The only IDEs I use (Integrated Development Environment) are NetBeans and TogetherSoft, which integrate language development, the web and EJB containers, the modeling tools, and the documentation for reference. They can generate things like HTML, but I usually just write it by hand, because I HATE generated formatting. HTML should be clean and easy to read:

I'm with Cobalt on this one. I developed and maintain the web page for the bass fishing circuit I fish on here in Minnesota. The stuff that comes out of frontpage and the others is garbage. I have Golive! and never use it. The stuff you generate by hand can be maintained and updated by hand. It also doesn't look one way on Exploder and another on Netscrape.

Check out the MN Pro/Am Bass Tour. You'll notice it looks the same on Netscrape and Exploder. If you "view source" on any of the pages you'll also notice that it doesn't take 20 pages of html code for each page.

I do use PhotoShop on almost every page.

/<eystroke · 10-07-2003, 10:25 AM

Vi rules!

Locutus · 10-07-2003, 10:27 AM

I agree with COBALT also. I learned HTML before there was any editors. I do sometimes use specific editors depending on if I am working on PHP or Java. I use Sausage HotDog for most editing. It highlights my tags and I have learned the hot keys for most of the more common tags so my coding is quicker. I still maintain a good format and don't have the unnecessary garbage that Frontpage leaves behind. I am currently setting up my hosting company www.aristacom.net. I have used html and PHP and some java for most of it. The main thing is to find an editor or set of tools you like and learn them well. That is where your speed and efficiency come from.

Mike

C10Squared · 10-07-2003, 10:46 AM

Flash MX almost exclusively now. VIM and perl when I was in the AF (govt wouldn't buy us the cool tools).

Zumo · 10-07-2003, 11:03 AM

I just got Flash MX 2004 I am playing with it now. Trying to sign up for a course on it.

I also for got to mention I create my own graphics using Photoshop of course.

**CPNE** · 10-07-2003, 11:06 AM

The tools I use are Snap-on and Craftsman.

Locutus · 10-07-2003, 12:33 PM

CPNE- I use the web tools to buy the cool tools that you mentioned. Unfortunately things have been slow so no new cool tools

I would love to do a some high profile sites and set back a few grand for a garage.

Mike

**CPNE** · 10-07-2003, 12:45 PM

On the side I write back-end apps and interfaces for a large Boston firm that still requires COBOL on a VAX!

Not sexy, not cool, but pays REAL well. No one else can (or wants) to do that type of work today. COBALT would like it, lots of typing

...and you have to write your own I/O routines

Low87on20s · 10-07-2003, 01:04 PM

For the last 10 years I have been coding COBOL on STRATUS mainframes.

bigvinnie · 10-07-2003, 02:45 PM

visual studio.net

10-06-2003, 04:52 PM	#1
truck69 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 323	web page maker Wondering how many people out there have put together their own websites (either for your truck or Family)and what program did you use? I am learning HTML but I would think it would be much better just just buy a program at Best Buy and drag and drop all my items and create it that way. Any info would be great. Thanks.

10-06-2003, 04:56 PM	#2
GMCPaul Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Rockville,In. USA Posts: 3,718	We use Microsoft Frontpage 2002 GMCPaul __________________ Secure Online Catalog for-GMCPauls Truck Parts Email- GMCPAULS@GMAIL.COM

10-06-2003, 05:11 PM	#5
Palf70Step State of Confusion! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gulfport, MS USA Posts: 46,749	Mostly Microsoft FrontPage 2002. Also, whatever stuff they have for my freeservers site. I do most of my photopages with ACDSee, then transfer/merge the files into whatever I am using for the rest of the work. I'm still experimenting with the web page side of things so who knows if that is a good combo or not....works so far. __________________ Bill 1970 Chevy Custom/10 LWB Fleetside 2010 Toyota Tacoma PreRunner SR5 Double Cab - DD Member of Louisiana Classic Truck Club (LCTC) Bill's Gallery Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift. Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God!

10-06-2003, 05:57 PM	#7
Zumo Hot Rods For Life Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Waxahachie, TX Posts: 3,305	Dreamweaver. Some of my work: www.softerfury.com www.hurstracingteam.com www.aisfg.com www.zumografx.com __________________ 1968 C10 LWB **SOLD* Andy Viva Los Bicicletas! Los Muertos Custom Bicycles

10-06-2003, 08:38 PM	#10
dmurphy68 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Middletown ohio Posts: 1,058	I use dreamweaver also but mine is not as good as Zumo's www.wickedcustoms1.com Darren __________________ The very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference. When firearms go, all goes, we need them every hour. - George Washington No free man shall be debarred the use of arms - Thomas Jefferson Later Darren http://www.myspace.com/dmurphy68

10-06-2003, 05:02 PM	#3
rickspickuppart Account Suspended Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,284	I use netscape composer and cute HTML and then Cute FTP for transfering (all free programs except for the cute programs I did pay 20.00 to register them)

10-06-2003, 05:09 PM	#4
jamis F.A.S.T. president Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 1,883	Any of the MS proggies for making the page are easy to use and Flash FTP to upload.

10-06-2003, 05:12 PM	#6
MrShelley Too Many Clubs Club Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Kilgore, Texas Posts: 443	Dreamweaver. Period. FrontPage has too many Windows-centric quirks. Web pages should adhere to standards so any browser can view them regardless of which operating system they are running. If you have any experience with Adobe programs (Photoshop, Illustrator, etc.) look into GoLive. It's comparable to Dreamweaver. Yes, these programs cost more, but...you get what you pay for. If you're learning HTML, you must be somewhat serious about learning web design. Check out the serious tools.

10-06-2003, 06:13 PM	#8
MrShelley Too Many Clubs Club Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Kilgore, Texas Posts: 443	Zumo- Nice work!

10-06-2003, 11:00 PM	#11
Cat Fuzz My son, my joy. Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 463	Dreamweaver is, by far, the best WYSIWYG web page editor. I've used Front Page and canned it because it was messing up certain scripts, on purpose.

10-06-2003, 11:51 PM	#12
miket Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 1,466	Cobalt's a SHOWOFF!!!!....he..he..he...he... I used Microsoft Frontpage but to use any of the advanced features....the site that hosts it must use FrontPage Extensions.... I don't really like it but I am not a developer and don't want to spend the time to learn HTML. __________________ FocuzTech Performance Evergreen Protective Coatings Gatorhyde...the best kept secret in spray in bed lining & protection

10-07-2003, 12:11 AM	#13
drink2mny Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: spokane wa Posts: 2,189	I have used Arachnophilia.. It is a free prog on cnet.com I have made these 2 sites with it and wasn't very hard.. Blackbirds Custom Trucks 1964 Oldsmobile 442 I also have one made just for family to see pictures of our daughter.. for uploading I just use WS_ftp __________________ Support The Board

10-07-2003, 10:25 AM	#15
/<eystroke Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Texas Posts: 265	Vi rules! Attached Images __________________ '69 C/10 Short Wide 350/400/AC/Tilt/Tach

10-07-2003, 10:27 AM	#16
Locutus Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Santa Fe, Texas Posts: 250	I agree with COBALT also. I learned HTML before there was any editors. I do sometimes use specific editors depending on if I am working on PHP or Java. I use Sausage HotDog for most editing. It highlights my tags and I have learned the hot keys for most of the more common tags so my coding is quicker. I still maintain a good format and don't have the unnecessary garbage that Frontpage leaves behind. I am currently setting up my hosting company www.aristacom.net. I have used html and PHP and some java for most of it. The main thing is to find an editor or set of tools you like and learn them well. That is where your speed and efficiency come from. Mike

10-07-2003, 10:46 AM	#17
C10Squared Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: W. Atlanta, GA Posts: 180	Flash MX almost exclusively now. VIM and perl when I was in the AF (govt wouldn't buy us the cool tools). __________________ '72 Chevy Custom/10 Shortbed '77 2wd K5 “Halfbaked” '93 Indy pace truck ‘70 GMC Jimmy ‘76 K5 Blazer Follow me on instagram @C10squared



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10-07-2003, 11:03 AM	#18
Zumo Hot Rods For Life Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Waxahachie, TX Posts: 3,305	I just got Flash MX 2004 I am playing with it now. Trying to sign up for a course on it. I also for got to mention I create my own graphics using Photoshop of course. __________________ 1968 C10 LWB **SOLD* Andy Viva Los Bicicletas! Los Muertos Custom Bicycles

10-07-2003, 11:06 AM	#19
CPNE Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NH Posts: 6,664	The tools I use are Snap-on and Craftsman. __________________ Currently on or near the homestead: 67 Chevy SWB 2WD stepside 350/3 on tree (Pat's) 67 GMC SWB 2WD Fleet 402/auto (Brian's under construction) 67 Chevy 3/4 ton 2WD 402/auto (Business Hauler) 67 Chevy 1 ton dually 2WD 396/4 speed (Former business hauler, Needs TLC) 68 Chevy 1/2 ton Suburban 2WD 250 six/3 on tree (Brian's Needs TLC) 70 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD 350/4 speed (Pat's - Disguised as a 68 GMC) 71 Chevy SWB stepside (Crushed by tree - parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD (Parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD Suburban (Parts Donor) 72 GMC 3/4 ton 4WD 292 six/4 speed (Mine - Disguised as a 67 GMC) 81 GMC 4WD Dually Dump Body 350/4 speed (Business Hauler) 82 Camaro Z/28 355/Super T-10 (Pat's toy) 93 Caprice 9C1 (Brian's Cop Car) 02 Toyota Camry (Reliable but a souless steel and plastic hulk) 2011 2SS RS Camaro M6 Factory Hurst Shifter Maybe I need to sell some of this crap Yet another Bozo with a sawz-all

10-07-2003, 12:33 PM	#20
Locutus Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Santa Fe, Texas Posts: 250	CPNE- I use the web tools to buy the cool tools that you mentioned. Unfortunately things have been slow so no new cool tools I would love to do a some high profile sites and set back a few grand for a garage. Mike

10-07-2003, 12:45 PM	#21
CPNE Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NH Posts: 6,664	On the side I write back-end apps and interfaces for a large Boston firm that still requires COBOL on a VAX! Not sexy, not cool, but pays REAL well. No one else can (or wants) to do that type of work today. COBALT would like it, lots of typing ...and you have to write your own I/O routines __________________ Currently on or near the homestead: 67 Chevy SWB 2WD stepside 350/3 on tree (Pat's) 67 GMC SWB 2WD Fleet 402/auto (Brian's under construction) 67 Chevy 3/4 ton 2WD 402/auto (Business Hauler) 67 Chevy 1 ton dually 2WD 396/4 speed (Former business hauler, Needs TLC) 68 Chevy 1/2 ton Suburban 2WD 250 six/3 on tree (Brian's Needs TLC) 70 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD 350/4 speed (Pat's - Disguised as a 68 GMC) 71 Chevy SWB stepside (Crushed by tree - parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD (Parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD Suburban (Parts Donor) 72 GMC 3/4 ton 4WD 292 six/4 speed (Mine - Disguised as a 67 GMC) 81 GMC 4WD Dually Dump Body 350/4 speed (Business Hauler) 82 Camaro Z/28 355/Super T-10 (Pat's toy) 93 Caprice 9C1 (Brian's Cop Car) 02 Toyota Camry (Reliable but a souless steel and plastic hulk) 2011 2SS RS Camaro M6 Factory Hurst Shifter Maybe I need to sell some of this crap Yet another Bozo with a sawz-all

10-07-2003, 01:04 PM	#22
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10-07-2003, 02:45 PM	#23
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