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Old 10-01-2021, 09:11 AM   #1
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Kick panel speaker pod differences

Hi everyone.

I am in the process of getting some sound in my '67 c10 (Kenwood head unit, kicker 8" hideaway powered sub, 400w amp for 2x 3.5" speakers for the center dash and 6.5" in kick panels so ordered panels and infinity speakers from Classic Auto Sound https://www.classiccarstereos.com/in...html?rrec=true.

They came in really quickly so no complaints there. I was bummed to see there was no angle to the pod though. Basically it looks like the LH speaker would shoot straight at the RH speaker.

Are there any issues with this? I am not an audio expert, but assumed you'd want it shooting towards your chest/head area for mids. Looks like Retro Sound makes kick panels as well that are angled. https://www.retromanufacturing.com/p...nt=20835567363
Am I better off going that route?

Any help or feedback greatly appreciated.

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Old 10-01-2021, 09:37 AM   #2
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Re: Kick panel speaker pod differences

I have the RetroSound KP-C59-6772, and they do have an angle to them. They are not a point up to your head angle like those old school q-form pods, but it's not flat like the ones you have.

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Old 10-01-2021, 03:47 PM   #3
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Re: Kick panel speaker pod differences

Being the audiophile I am , It's hard to improve on the sound from the stock AM radio using the single dash speaker .
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Old 10-01-2021, 04:06 PM   #4
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Re: Kick panel speaker pod differences

I have the kick panel speakers in my 68 C10. My only issue was the high/low head light switch. I moved it over towards the right one bolt hole. I only used one bolt. The hole in the carpet with the plastic switch ring keeps it from moving,
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Old 10-01-2021, 04:50 PM   #5
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Re: Kick panel speaker pod differences

The directionality of speakers is highly dependent on the speaker but generally it is not that big of a deal to be off axis. If you modeled the difference in surface area you would "see" from your left ear with 25* of angle, I would wager it woulc be almost nothing

I'd be more worried that those two 3.5" speakers would not be a benefit in the overall system. I'd put that money into the 6" speakers.
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Old 10-01-2021, 08:18 PM   #6
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I'd be more worried that those two 3.5" speakers would not be a benefit in the overall system. I'd put that money into the 6" speakers.
Are the 6" as easy to fit in the dash as the 3.5"?
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Old 10-01-2021, 11:47 PM   #7
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Sorry, that was confusing. I meant to say that I wouldn't have dash speakers at all, and I would maximize the quality of the 6.5" component speakers. So just two kick panel speakers and the subwoofer. A side benefit is that you get extra space under the dash.

The theory is that there is very little that the 3.5" speaker can do (in terms of frequency response and sound pressure) that the 6.5" speaker can't do better. At higher volumes, the smaller speaker will likely start to clip/break up before the larger speaker. If you want to raise the front sound stage, you could use some tweeters mounted at dash or a pillar level- but these old trucks make a lot of noise and I can't say if you would see a benefit in actual use.
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Old 10-03-2021, 07:58 AM   #8
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Being the audiophile I am , It's hard to improve on the sound from the stock AM radio using the single dash speaker .
HA HA Now that is funny!
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Old 10-03-2021, 08:28 AM   #9
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HA HA Now that is funny!
Yeah , I'm adding in my Craig 8 track to get all the acoustics I can out of the same cubic feet of space in my cab as a double door refrigerator .
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Old 10-03-2021, 10:24 PM   #10
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Re: Kick panel speaker pod differences

Thanks for the responses everyone. SkidmoreGarage, that's what I was after on if the angle pops were needed or if the straight ones would be fine.
These are the 6.5s I have for the door speakers
https://www.amazon.com/Infinity-REF6...3313336&sr=8-3
I guess I will just keep these and see how they do. They'll need stone trimming so figured I'd check before I went cutting.

These are the 3.5s I bought
https://mbquart.com/shop/mobile/mobi...inch-speakers/
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Old 10-05-2021, 03:51 PM   #11
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... kicker 8" hideaway powered sub ...
So how are you stashing that - I assume under the seat (bench)? I'd like to add some bass to mine.

I just read the below on Amazon, so this looks promising. As I have buckets (though mine are buddy buckets, not 71 buckets).

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Worked perfect in my 71 C10 pickup, fits under my pass. bucket seat!!!!
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Old 10-05-2021, 05:08 PM   #12
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So how are you stashing that - I assume under the seat (bench)? I'd like to add some bass to mine.

I just read the below on Amazon, so this looks promising. As I have buckets (though mine are buddy buckets, not 71 buckets).
I haven't mounted it yet but should be pretty easy to tuck under the seat somewhere.
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Old 10-05-2021, 05:23 PM   #13
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Re: Kick panel speaker pod differences

like to see that, once you got it all mounted :-)
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Old 10-05-2021, 09:57 PM   #14
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Re: Kick panel speaker pod differences

When I was at the Maggie Valley show two weeks ago, I noticed a few trucks with the Kick panel Speakers in them.
I asked the owners if I could look inside.
I noticed that the Drivers side was in such a position that it completely blocks the Parking Brake pedal, and seriously impedes access to the Dimmer switch.
Now I like a good stereo system, but those two accessories are kinda important in a truck, IMHO.
My current setup is two 4inch speakers in the stock location
, two 6 inch speaker up under the bottom edge of the dash, and two 6x9 four ways up under the seats. In the near future, I’m adding a 8 in Subwoofer, and a 400 watt amp, to get a little more clear Sound while cruising down the road.
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Old 10-05-2021, 10:41 PM   #15
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When I was at the Maggie Valley show two weeks ago, I noticed a few trucks with the Kick panel Speakers in them.
I asked the owners if I could look inside.
I noticed that the Drivers side was in such a position that it completely blocks the Parking Brake pedal, and seriously impedes access to the Dimmer switch.
Now I like a good stereo system, but those two accessories are kinda important in a truck, IMHO.
My current setup is two 4inch speakers in the stock location
, two 6 inch speaker up under the bottom edge of the dash, and two 6x9 four ways up under the seats. In the near future, I’m adding a 8 in Subwoofer, and a 400 watt amp, to get a little more clear Sound while cruising down the road.
Those are important to me as well. Dimmer switch will be moved to the right (take the mounting bolt that will now hit lh dimmer hole) and there are several threads on how people clearance the parking brake pedal, so neither are a concern to me really, just the angle of the pods themselves.
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