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Old 07-10-2023, 12:55 PM   #1
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Ever notice your fan shroud doesn't fit - Upper radiator brackets

I can only speak for a 4-row 1971 BBC AT with A/C. Before I rebuilt my truck the shroud just wasn't right and I didn't know why. Many shrouds see scrapes because they're not installed right. Heck on my truck they didn't even install the lower brackets right, the core support's lower rear edge has to be bent down some to so the brackets are flush for a 4 row radiator, but the factory didn't bother.

The parts book for upper brackets calls for one part number. I've bought after market, NOS and have the original brackets, and all of them have one thing in common, which is the area that mounts the shroud needs to be bent well downward for the right fit. Of course the factory didn't bother with that either.

Correct radiators, shrouds and core supports don't lie, but the brackets sure do. Strange the factory didn't supply the right mounts to begin with.
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Old 07-10-2023, 02:17 PM   #2
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Re: Ever notice your fan shroud doesn't fit - Upper radiator brackets

I don't know for a fact but was wondering if the radiator support at the bottom wher the radiator brackets go wher designed different for a four core. When I change my radiator from a orginal single core to a orginal four core, I had to cut the alittle on the raditor support under the each radiator bracket so they laid flat so the radiator wasn't up so high and the radiator brackets up top then laid flat right into place. Are the bottom rad brackets
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Old 07-10-2023, 03:19 PM   #3
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I don't know for a fact but was wondering if the radiator support at the bottom wher the radiator brackets go wher designed different for a four core. When I change my radiator from a orginal single core to a orginal four core, I had to cut the alittle on the raditor support under the each radiator bracket so they laid flat so the radiator wasn't up so high and the radiator brackets up top then laid flat right into place. Are the bottom rad brackets
low and level.
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I'm unsure of any differences in lower brackets. My lower brackets weren't installed flush on the core support, with factory rivets; now bolts. I bent the lip on the support so they'd seat flush. As they were from factory (not right), then of course the tops brackets were closer for the shroud, but still not right. So the shroud's lower clips couldn't insert into the support right, so on and so forth.

Edit: Some research says the upper and lower brackets are mostly the same on these trucks...... as follows:
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Old 07-10-2023, 10:39 PM   #4
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Re: Ever notice your fan shroud doesn't fit - Upper radiator brackets

Just curious, is it possible an incorrect shroud is in place? I can’t recall specifics w regard to BB shrouds.
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Old 07-10-2023, 10:43 PM   #5
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Just curious, is it possible an incorrect shroud is in place? I can’t recall specifics w regard to BB shrouds.
Nope Right shroud, it's got the right part number. Right support, right pads, right radiator and "right brackets".

Seems to me the brackets were mostly the same and the assembly made alterations as needed, assuming they do

Pretty sure right support anyway, I don't know of any distinctions other than it fits or it doesn't.
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Old 07-11-2023, 07:05 AM   #6
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Re: Ever notice your fan shroud doesn't fit - Upper radiator brackets

I noticed this recently when I switched my radiator and needed to change out to the 4 core brackets. They fit very poorly, quite like the photo you posted. My temporary solution was to add spacers between the core support and upper brackets to bring them closer to level, yet they still don't fit that great. On the bottoms, I did notch the core support so they sit as low and level as they can go. I would like to see a clean solution to get these brackets to sit right!

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Old 07-11-2023, 01:14 PM   #7
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Re: Ever notice your fan shroud doesn't fit - Upper radiator brackets

I used a belt sander and thinned up the rubber...
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Old 07-11-2023, 02:18 PM   #8
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I noticed this recently when I switched my radiator and needed to change out to the 4 core brackets. They fit very poorly, quite like the photo you posted. My temporary solution was to add spacers between the core support and upper brackets to bring them closer to level, yet they still don't fit that great. On the bottoms, I did notch the core support so they sit as low and level as they can go. I would like to see a clean solution to get these brackets to sit right!

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That looks NICE. Apparently your shroud sits much higher than mine, I had to drop the brackets. Seems as long as the parts are correct then mod as the shroud dictates.


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I used a belt sander and thinned up the rubber...
I initially did that and great point to bring up. Beats bending the top bracket. But mine was off as much 1/4"-ish, seemed like a lot of pad to remove.
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Old 07-11-2023, 03:24 PM   #9
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Re: Ever notice your fan shroud doesn't fit - Upper radiator brackets

I actually built an aluminum shroud that bolts to the core support. When I raised these radiator brackets up, I didn't even consider that it would not work with the stock shroud. That is a good observation though. For those looking for a good solution with the stock shroud, ignore my idea!

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