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Old 05-05-2008, 12:07 AM   #1
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np205 compatability

Would an np205 from a 77 4 speed chevy be the same as my 205 in my 70 blazer? How much should I pay for one in good working condition. I'm planning on rebuilding mine but can't afford the down time on my truck so I'm looking for a cheap one to rebuild.
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Old 05-05-2008, 12:21 AM   #2
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Re: np205 compatability

I did a search that listed 2 different 205s from 71-85, one with 10 splines and one with 27 splines, for a 4 speed and th350 respectively. Now I'm not sure which I have. Stock it was behind a th350 but has the stock adapter.
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Old 05-05-2008, 01:08 AM   #3
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Re: np205 compatability

I don't know the exact years and differences. I think the 77 will have the different splines and adapter bolt pattern.

Take a look on craigslist, you should be able to find an NP205 from a similar year truck without too much trouble.
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Old 05-05-2008, 03:46 AM   #4
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Re: np205 compatability

What trans do you have in your K5?
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Old 05-05-2008, 08:50 AM   #5
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Re: np205 compatability

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Would an np205 from a 77 4 speed chevy be the same as my 205 in my 70 blazer? How much should I pay for one in good working condition. I'm planning on rebuilding mine but can't afford the down time on my truck so I'm looking for a cheap one to rebuild.
Thanks for the help


Two things come to mind:

1) Mount surface (Race track or round) between engine and adaptor.

2) Spline count (ten, twenty-seven, or thirty-two).


Race track mounting surface was on early models; round came on late models.

Ten spline: early; twenty-seven spline: middle; thirty-two spline late.
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Old 05-05-2008, 10:02 AM   #6
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Re: np205 compatability

The 77 205 is a 10 spline and looks identical to mine but I haven't removed mine to look at the output shaft.
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The 77 205 is a 10 spline and looks identical to mine but I haven't removed mine to look at the output shaft.


I think the ten spline came with a 465 attached to it.
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Old 05-05-2008, 05:29 PM   #8
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Re: np205 compatability

Thanks guys, I'll start looking for a 27 spline 205 then. Just curious did the next gen trucks use the same adapter between the th350 and 205 as well? I was getting hung up on the word "adapter" thinking it was a 10 spline with an adapter to run with a th350.
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Thanks guys, I'll start looking for a 27 spline 205 then. Just curious did the next gen trucks use the same adapter between the th350 and 205 as well? I was getting hung up on the word "adapter" thinking it was a 10 spline with an adapter to run with a th350.
Yes, they did. The "Figure 8" adapter was used until mid 80's. Most of the 4 speed 205s will be 10 spline MALE input (they require a goofy female to female coupler). Mid 80's they (4 speed 205's) switched to 32 spline.

I have a Figure 8 205 here, with 27spline female input. I was going to use it on my build but went with a 32 spline instead.

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Old 05-05-2008, 06:43 PM   #10
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Very well, thanks guys, I almost bought the wrong one.
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Very well, thanks guys, I almost bought the wrong one.
Well, there really isn't a wrong one... to make matters more confusing, you can swap inputs between the 27 spline and 10 spline t-cases. They use the same bearing. It does require a tear down of the t-case, but that's never a bad idea on something so old. I rebuild everyone I use.

The 32 spline input 205s use a 90MM bearing vs the 80MM bearing in the 10 spline and 27 spline cases. I have a ton of 205 parts here, let me know what you need.
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Old 05-05-2008, 09:43 PM   #12
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I'm going to attempt to rebuild my 205 but my truck is my dd and I don't want to have to hurry so I'm looking for a cheap 205 in my area to rebuild and then swap in.
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This is a really good article:
http://www.fourwheeler.com/projectbu...ild/index.html

I used this one for the pics:
http://www.okcnetworks.com/bronco/205/np1.htm

Be careful though, it's a Ford!
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Old 05-10-2008, 02:49 PM   #14
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Re: np205 compatability

Take a look on advancedadapters.com
The make new adapter housings, couplers and 205 cases. They've got pics of all of it. Might help you out.
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