ignition switch removal problems - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

Rat Bastid · 07-21-2010, 10:36 PM

ok guys this should be simple right,put key in ignition ,turn to on,put paper clip into little hole ,push in,turn key to accessory and viola.......nothing......over and over i tried,and got nothing but upset.......i need to remove this in order to remove the bezal correct......im stumped,am i doing something wrong here? helppp

hotrod100 · 07-21-2010, 11:22 PM

With it in the off position push the paper clip in the hole then turn to acc. Don't turn it to the on position. You may have to wiggle the lock cylinder with the key to get it to pop loose. And yes you need to remove it to remove the bezel.

oldblue1968chevy · 07-21-2010, 11:29 PM

Yeah it takes some time, dont get frustrated you are doing it right...

**LockDoc** · 07-22-2010, 12:17 AM

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67's and some 68's don't have an accessory position. Just put the key in the ignition and "gently" turn it as far to the left as it will go. Insert a straightened paper clip in the hole (the large ones work best) and push the release pin down (go easy here, it doesn't take much pressure at all) and turn the cylinder to the left a little more. As you turn the cylinder you have to remove the paper clip or it will bind in the hole. The cylinder should pull out. You should not have to force anything.

LockDoc

67Dad · 03-05-2011, 05:17 PM

67 c10: I put a tip cleaner in the spring hole by the key. It loosened and the decorative bezel appeared to unscrew (or just slide?), but it only opened up about 1/4 - 1/2 inch or so and won't go any further. Wires are off back, cylinder is now "loose" in the dashboard, but bezel keeps it from coming out completely. Any ideas or trick short of destroying it?

Thanks.

Mark

**LockDoc** · 03-05-2011, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 67Dad

67 c10: I put a tip cleaner in the spring hole by the key. It loosened and the decorative bezel appeared to unscrew (or just slide?), but it only opened up about 1/4 - 1/2 inch or so and won't go any further. Wires are off back, cylinder is now "loose" in the dashboard, but bezel keeps it from coming out completely. Any ideas or trick short of destroying it?

Thanks.

Mark

If you follow my instructions in the post above yours it should come apart. The bezel won't screw off until you take the lock cylinder out. I think you are confusing the switch assembly with the cylinder. The cylinder is the center part that the key goes into. If you don't have that out yet screw the bezel back on the switch until you get the cylinder out. Be careful not to cross thread the bezel, the threads are really fine on it. Here is a picture with the parts labeled.

LockDoc

67Dad · 03-06-2011, 12:08 AM

Got it! Without breaking!

MANY thanks for the help and pics.

Mark

VA72C10 · 03-06-2011, 01:47 AM

Any way to do this without having the original key?

**too much stuff** · 03-06-2011, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by VA72C10

Any way to do this without having the original key?

Sawzall from behind the dash was how i did the last one...

**LockDoc** · 03-06-2011, 01:54 AM

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The code number should be stamped on the door lock cylinder, (see pic below) sometimes one, sometimes both. The only time I have found one that didn't have the code stamped on it is when the lock had been replaced with a new one. Check the passenger door first. Generally the lock case will have to be cleaned very well to be able to see the code number. A small wire brush, steel wool, scotch bright, or sandpaper usually works well for this. I do not recommend a wire wheel because it will completely remove the code number if it is stamped lightly. The code number is always stamped into the lock case, never cast into it. Most locksmiths can cut a key from this code number. Home centers and hardware stores will not be able to do this. If the locks are original to the truck or were all replaced at the same time the key made from the code number on the door lock should fit the ignition switch & usually the glove box too (but not always).

LockDoc

todd99 · 03-06-2011, 01:56 AM

When mine broke after hours of frustration I gave up on replacing it. I went to radioshack and built a new ignition.

VA72C10 · 03-06-2011, 11:25 AM

I like the sawzall idea

mcmlxix · 03-19-2011, 11:45 PM

Has anyone had the ignition and doors setup to use the same key?

VA72C10 · 03-20-2011, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by mcmlxix

Has anyone had the ignition and doors setup to use the same key?

yes, a locksmith could re-key them or you can buy complete kits with ignition, door locks, and even a glovebox door lock all keyed the same.

long69 · 03-20-2011, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by mcmlxix

Has anyone had the ignition and doors setup to use the same key?

mine are keyed alike, i had to get new locks for the doors and when i did i had them key'd the same as the ignition. as i recall finding a cheap locksmith was a chore but i found one at a fair price. i think i paid 30 bucks. it took 15 min so i think 30 was fair. shoot now that i think about i wonder if it would have be cheaper to just have changed the ignition key to match the new door locks

Longhorn Man · 03-20-2011, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mcmlxix

Has anyone had the ignition and doors setup to use the same key?

all 67 to 72 trucks came from the factory like this

**LockDoc** · 03-20-2011, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by long69

mine are keyed alike, i had to get new locks for the doors and when i did i had them key'd the same as the ignition. as i recall finding a cheap locksmith was a chore but i found one at a fair price. i think i paid 30 bucks. it took 15 min so i think 30 was fair. shoot now that i think about i wonder if it would have be cheaper to just have changed the ignition key to match the new door locks

Yes, it would have been cheaper to re-key the ignition lock cylinder. To re-key the door locks you have to remove the stainless cover from the front of the lock which usually means replacing the cover. Plus you have to re-key two locks when you do the doors.

Another thing to consider for anyone else thinking about doing this is to make sure that the key that you are going to use physically fits into the lock you are going to have re-keyed. There are four different keyways and key blanks for the '67-'72 chevy & GMC trucks.

Also, to mirror what Andy said all '67-'72 GM trucks came from the factory with the doors and ignition keyed the same...

LockDoc

71gmcburb · 03-20-2011, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by VA72C10

Any way to do this without having the original key?

I had to do this to my burb. the PO lost the keys and when he sold it to me he had a replacement hanging below the dash by the wires!

I drilled out the original to get the bezal off and then I installed the replacement switch in the original location with the original bezal

no sawzall needed

mightymouse · 03-20-2011, 04:37 PM

it works i just got mine off too thanks i was also stumped on this

07-21-2010, 10:36 PM	#1
Rat Bastid Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: sumner wa. Posts: 158	ignition switch removal problems ok guys this should be simple right,put key in ignition ,turn to on,put paper clip into little hole ,push in,turn key to accessory and viola.......nothing......over and over i tried,and got nothing but upset.......i need to remove this in order to remove the bezal correct......im stumped,am i doing something wrong here? helppp

07-21-2010, 11:22 PM	#2
hotrod100 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bullhead City, AZ. Posts: 88	Re: ignition switch removal problems With it in the off position push the paper clip in the hole then turn to acc. Don't turn it to the on position. You may have to wiggle the lock cylinder with the key to get it to pop loose. And yes you need to remove it to remove the bezel. __________________ My build thread.

07-21-2010, 11:29 PM	#3
oldblue1968chevy Grandpa in the rustmobile... Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Spokane WA/Viola TN Posts: 11,422	Re: ignition switch removal problems Yeah it takes some time, dont get frustrated you are doing it right... __________________ John Goose-1968 C10 355,9.32-1CR, Vortec Heads ,262 voodoo, 3.73:1 3OTT (HS ride/beater/farm truck) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=317684 Grams 53-1953 Chevrolet Belair http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post4327784 1969 Chevy C10 Shortbed 4.5/6?" Frame off resto http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=548136 1999 Toyota Tacoma 4x4

07-22-2010, 12:17 AM	#4
LockDoc The Older Generation Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Posts: 25,359	Re: ignition switch removal problems - 67's and some 68's don't have an accessory position. Just put the key in the ignition and "gently" turn it as far to the left as it will go. Insert a straightened paper clip in the hole (the large ones work best) and push the release pin down (go easy here, it doesn't take much pressure at all) and turn the cylinder to the left a little more. As you turn the cylinder you have to remove the paper clip or it will bind in the hole. The cylinder should pull out. You should not have to force anything. LockDoc __________________ Leon Locksmith, Specializing In Antique Trucks, Automobiles, & Motorcycles (My Dually Pickup Project Thread) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=829820 -

03-05-2011, 05:17 PM	#5
67Dad Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: houston texas Posts: 84	Re: ignition switch removal problems 67 c10: I put a tip cleaner in the spring hole by the key. It loosened and the decorative bezel appeared to unscrew (or just slide?), but it only opened up about 1/4 - 1/2 inch or so and won't go any further. Wires are off back, cylinder is now "loose" in the dashboard, but bezel keeps it from coming out completely. Any ideas or trick short of destroying it? Thanks. Mark __________________ Mark 57 Austin Healey 3000 (sold many moons ago, unfortunately) 67 C10 (in progress, son's) w/ 1993 350 SBC, '96 Vortec heads (custom polished ports), EPS Performer intake, Holley carb, cam, MSD ignition 93 C4 Corvette (mostly done, son's)

03-06-2011, 12:08 AM	#7
67Dad Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: houston texas Posts: 84	Re: ignition switch removal problems Got it! Without breaking! MANY thanks for the help and pics. Mark __________________ Mark 57 Austin Healey 3000 (sold many moons ago, unfortunately) 67 C10 (in progress, son's) w/ 1993 350 SBC, '96 Vortec heads (custom polished ports), EPS Performer intake, Holley carb, cam, MSD ignition 93 C4 Corvette (mostly done, son's)

03-06-2011, 01:47 AM	#8
VA72C10 VA72C10 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Midlothian, VA Posts: 25,269	Re: ignition switch removal problems Any way to do this without having the original key? __________________ Looking for a 67-72 swb or blazer project in or around VA.

03-06-2011, 01:54 AM	#10
LockDoc The Older Generation Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Posts: 25,359	Re: ignition switch removal problems - The code number should be stamped on the door lock cylinder, (see pic below) sometimes one, sometimes both. The only time I have found one that didn't have the code stamped on it is when the lock had been replaced with a new one. Check the passenger door first. Generally the lock case will have to be cleaned very well to be able to see the code number. A small wire brush, steel wool, scotch bright, or sandpaper usually works well for this. I do not recommend a wire wheel because it will completely remove the code number if it is stamped lightly. The code number is always stamped into the lock case, never cast into it. Most locksmiths can cut a key from this code number. Home centers and hardware stores will not be able to do this. If the locks are original to the truck or were all replaced at the same time the key made from the code number on the door lock should fit the ignition switch & usually the glove box too (but not always). LockDoc Attached Images __________________ Leon Locksmith, Specializing In Antique Trucks, Automobiles, & Motorcycles (My Dually Pickup Project Thread) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=829820 - Last edited by LockDoc; 03-06-2011 at 01:59 AM.

03-06-2011, 01:56 AM	#11
todd99 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: prescott, az Posts: 225	Re: ignition switch removal problems When mine broke after hours of frustration I gave up on replacing it. I went to radioshack and built a new ignition. __________________ 1971 C20 Longhorn Custom Camper

03-06-2011, 11:25 AM	#12
VA72C10 VA72C10 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Midlothian, VA Posts: 25,269	Re: ignition switch removal problems I like the sawzall idea __________________ Looking for a 67-72 swb or blazer project in or around VA.

03-19-2011, 11:45 PM	#13
mcmlxix Collector of Projects Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 3,106	Re: ignition switch removal problems Has anyone had the ignition and doors setup to use the same key? __________________ Rich 1972 K5 Blazer CST Click HERE D60 BIG BRAKE UPGRADE Click HERE

03-20-2011, 04:37 PM	#19
mightymouse Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Crowley TX Posts: 979	Re: ignition switch removal problems it works i just got mine off too thanks i was also stumped on this



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