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Old 11-19-2012, 01:40 AM   #1
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Re: "Bittersweet" 83 dropmember blown LS 22s

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Wow - looks great!
I have one question though - I might catch hell from all the guys with bagged squares -
I only ask because I've had experience with hydraulics, not airbags - but can you really take advantage of a huge HP engine, whether an LS or not? I mean, isn't there some diminished handling characteristics with airbags? So isn't all that monster HP kinda wasted?
Air bags CAN handle great but when they are aired up to get a proper spring rate for handling they sit to high and a static drop car with static spring rates is already at its ride hight so it will outperform bags with ease

Airbags = great stance nice ride and moderate handling
Springs = harsh or soft ride. Moderate stance great handling when setup that way and a good stance with about the same fab as bags
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:47 AM   #2
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Re: "Bittersweet" 83 dropmember blown LS 22s

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Air bags CAN handle great but when they are aired up to get a proper spring rate for handling they sit to high and a static drop car with static spring rates is already at its ride hight so it will outperform bags with ease
The ride height of an air'd up bagged suspension will depend on the suspension,... not the bag.
Any Porterbuilt chassis has a lower ride height than my bagged blazer at full dump.
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Old 11-19-2012, 11:03 AM   #3
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Re: "Bittersweet" 83 dropmember blown LS 22s

heres a few shots of the bed
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Old 11-19-2012, 11:06 AM   #4
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i went with new bed sides front wall and gate and the crew at rpm designed and did the metal work inside
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That bed looks amazing!
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Old 11-19-2012, 04:11 PM   #6
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The ride height of an air'd up bagged suspension will depend on the suspension,... not the bag.
Any Porterbuilt chassis has a lower ride height than my bagged blazer at full dump.
Exactly if your air susp is built for handling then it will handle great but if your aired up or aired halfway it will still be slightly softer than a coil system and will lean more. And besides it kinda defeats the dual purpose of bags by setting it up as such bags give you stance at the shows and good ride and ground clearance around town
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Old 11-21-2012, 05:46 PM   #7
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i took a few pics today theres a shot of the mac's track that flush mounts into the bed , not sure if ill have them polished or powercoated yet

a pic of the gas cap and the boxes RPM made to go in the fuel doors left side is air fitting to fill the tank kinda back up and a air gauge to show tank pressure and the right side is battery jump terminals and flaming river kill switch and those are painted flat like the engine bay will be
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Re: "Bittersweet" 83 dropmember blown LS 22s

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Air bags CAN handle great but when they are aired up to get a proper spring rate for handling they sit to high and a static drop car with static spring rates is already at its ride hight so it will outperform bags with ease

Airbags = great stance nice ride and moderate handling
Springs = harsh or soft ride. Moderate stance great handling when setup that way and a good stance with about the same fab as bags
What type of air suspension set-ups have you built and/or tweaked? From my experience (steel coils & bag set-ups on my own personal 6X-74 trucks that were done similarly)....

Airbags or steel Springs = harsh or soft ride depending on how they're set-up.
Moderate stance & great handling can be achieved w/either spring type again depending on how they're set up.
Steel coils can be set up w/a good stance (ride height) with about the same fab as bags but won't have the same adjustability.
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:44 PM   #9
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What type of air suspension set-ups have you built and/or tweaked? From my experience (steel coils & bag set-ups on my own personal 6X-74 trucks that were done similarly)....

Airbags or steel Springs = harsh or soft ride depending on how they're set-up.
Moderate stance & great handling can be achieved w/either spring type again depending on how they're set up.
Steel coils can be set up w/a good stance (ride height) with about the same fab as bags but won't have the same adjustability.
I've done my own susp work and been in both types. Race cars don't use bags lol nuff said.


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