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ivorton74 · 01-09-2015, 08:08 PM

So I saw on chevy's performance website and I saw they're already offering a new LT1 crate engine...mind you it is $11k for one of these. So how long you guys think it'll be before so one swaps one into our trucks? If I had the funds I wouldn't hesitate to do it.

http://www.chevrolet.com/performance...lt1.html#parts

HemiChallenger71 · 01-09-2015, 08:42 PM

It'll be in a 67-69 camaro first, if it hasnt been done already.

sammygroundzero · 01-09-2015, 09:12 PM

I sold a longblock for 2k

**BP Automotive** · 01-09-2015, 09:32 PM

We are working with one of our big customers, he purchased a LT1 crate late last year from GM. At the time he was the ONLY person to have purchased a crate from GM. He has some connections!

Anyhow, we are just about finished with our Gen V R&D. Once that is taken care of, he will get it up and going on his engine Dyno. Im sure it wont be long after that he will send pictures of it in one of his customer's cars!

They already have installed one in an older stingray, but that was a GMPP deal there.

Bill

ivorton74 · 01-09-2015, 10:36 PM

Well looks like they putting one in Jimmie Johnson's 71 Corvette....http://www.chevrolet.com/culture/art...corvette.html# Those old corvettes just look awesome.

BR3W CITY · 01-10-2015, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BP Automotive

We are working with one of our big customers, he purchased a LT1 crate late last year from GM. At the time he was the ONLY person to have purchased a crate from GM. He has some connections!

Anyhow, we are just about finished with our Gen V R&D. Once that is taken care of, he will get it up and going on his engine Dyno. Im sure it wont be long after that he will send pictures of it in one of his customer's cars!

They already have installed one in an older stingray, but that was a GMPP deal there.

Bill

What are you doing for ECU tuning? I know there aren't a ton of folks who've spent too much time with the GenV ecu systems aside from those that are "well connected"...to put it one way. Not so much on tuning, but on making the parts work outside of the designed chassis (with the bcm integration etc)?
This topic came up in another discussion so now you got me interested.

ivorton74 · 01-10-2015, 03:42 AM

Looks like u can buy a 4L70e trans from chevy performance to work with the lt1 so at least we know the older trans works...wonder how a t56 would fit on there? I was looking at the motor and i dont think the stock exhaust manifold would work on our trucks...i could be wrong..

Andy4639 · 01-10-2015, 09:23 AM

On the 2013 Hot Rod power tour you could buy the whole thing. Motor, trans, wiring everything from the GM tent. They had people there that could tell you anything you wanted to know about it. Complete kits where around $25,000 if I remember correctly.

BR3W CITY · 01-10-2015, 06:59 PM

See I'm assuming every project has been with a crate motor right? I can't imagine people have had too much luck with a pullout for something like that. I don't see ultra-late-model vette's in the wrecking yard much lol

**BP Automotive** · 01-10-2015, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BR3W CITY

What are you doing for ECU tuning? I know there aren't a ton of folks who've spent too much time with the GenV ecu systems aside from those that are "well connected"...to put it one way. Not so much on tuning, but on making the parts work outside of the designed chassis (with the bcm integration etc)?
This topic came up in another discussion so now you got me interested.

We have not had the chance to fool with one of the E92 ECMs just yet. Really focusing on getting the wiring taken care of, as that is the biggest feat. As soon as that is finished we will start on the ecm and work on it as we work on getting the engine running on a stand/dyno.

**Hart_Rod** · 01-11-2015, 11:19 AM

I think the "footprint" of the LT1 is the same as the LS engines.

ls1nova71 · 01-11-2015, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BR3W CITY

See I'm assuming every project has been with a crate motor right? I can't imagine people have had too much luck with a pullout for something like that. I don't see ultra-late-model vette's in the wrecking yard much lol

You're not getting to the right wrecking yards. You don't think someone somewhere has totaled out a new Vette yet?

I guarantee it's happened somewhere!!

On a side note, I have seen a new 2014 Silverado in the late model salvage yard around here, 7000 miles, $3500. http://www.car-part.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi I'd like to have one, and in time I will!!!

BR3W CITY · 01-11-2015, 03:38 PM

No I mean if they are ending up there, someone else is getting a phone call before me. You won't "just happen to find" them too often, at least not where I live. Milwaukee doesn't have the wealth-density that maybe the Chicago area does, it might be different if I tried there (but I'm not really looking lol)

boostedc10 · 01-15-2015, 10:13 PM

IMO it will take some time to really see them in projects. First you have the new ECM but I think the bigger struggle will be with the direct injection in performance applications like the addition of a turbo.

aknovaman · 01-15-2015, 10:36 PM

There are tons of them on car part dot com starting at $3k.

**Hart_Rod** · 01-15-2015, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by boostedc10

IMO it will take some time to really see them in projects. First you have the new ECM but I think the bigger struggle will be with the direct injection in performance applications like the addition of a turbo.

From my understanding, the tuning methods are similar to how you tune a turbo diesel.

boostedc10 · 01-15-2015, 11:50 PM

Hart you are right on how to tune them, I was more talking the software to do it. On the direct injection side I am talking about the physical injector being the road block for a little while.

**Hart_Rod** · 01-16-2015, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by boostedc10

Hart you are right on how to tune them, I was more talking the software to do it. On the direct injection side I am talking about the physical injector being the road block for a little while.

Gotcha. I know HPTuners is working on it: http://www.hptuners.com/forum/forumd...ine-Gas-(Gen-5)

Wasted Income · 01-16-2015, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by boostedc10

IMO it will take some time to really see them in projects. First you have the new ECM but I think the bigger struggle will be with the direct injection in performance applications like the addition of a turbo.

Ah! Beat me to it!

I don't really have much interest in a stock crate anything from GMPP.

I'm looking forward to bigger injectors, higher pressure/flow fuel pumps, and forged internals for these gen 5 bullets to see what kind of potential they have with the wick turned up on some boost.

Wasted Income · 01-16-2015, 11:33 AM

I just hope that LT1 performance parts don't end up costing what Duramax performance stuff does.

$1600 for a hot-rod CP3 pump.....$4200 for a set of 20% over injectors...

I got out of the diesel performance game years ago due to the ridiculous costs of modding a direct injection deal. Makes building a high-zoot big block chevy deal look like a bargain...

boostedc10 · 01-16-2015, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Wasted Income

Ah! Beat me to it!

I don't really have much interest in a stock crate anything from GMPP.

I'm looking forward to bigger injectors, higher pressure/flow fuel pumps, and forged internals for these gen 5 bullets to see what kind of potential they have with the wick turned up on some boost.

Haha, always late to the party! Must be that new toy you bought making you slow!

Oh and I agree I hope it doesn't cost an arm and a leg to make power!

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Originally Posted by Hart_Rod

Gotcha. I know HPTuners is working on it: http://www.hptuners.com/forum/forumd...ine-Gas-(Gen-5)

Ya Hart I have HPTuners and have been watching the threads. I am sure it won't be long until we have more info on tuning them . Like Wasted said I want to really turn the wick up and don't have the cash to be the guinea pig this early in the game!

BR3W CITY · 01-17-2015, 07:40 PM

I usually get to play with versions of HPT before they see normal release, so I'll gladly let you know what I hear in the pipeline. While I'm not a pro tuner, sometimes it pays to know someone who is.

aknovaman · 01-17-2015, 10:30 PM

Picked up 43 rear wheel horse power on a totally stock truck last month. Power is in the fueling unlike the lsx factory pcm's.

boostedc10 · 01-17-2015, 10:33 PM

Ya that's the case with most DI motors. Problem is when you need more fuel and pressure, then it gets expensive!

01-09-2015, 08:08 PM	#1
ivorton74 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: South Dakota Posts: 916	How long before we see an LT1 in our trucks So I saw on chevy's performance website and I saw they're already offering a new LT1 crate engine...mind you it is $11k for one of these. So how long you guys think it'll be before so one swaps one into our trucks? If I had the funds I wouldn't hesitate to do it. http://www.chevrolet.com/performance...lt1.html#parts __________________ 1983 C10 Silverado 5.3 swap 1974 C10 lwb 5.3 swap(sold)...http://67-72chevytrucks.com/board/sh...d.php?t=614122 2001 BMW 530i 5 speed 2019 Nissan Titan SV Midnight 1979 Datsun 210 4 door 1980 Datsun 120y(back home in Trinidad)

01-09-2015, 08:42 PM	#2
HemiChallenger71 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Metro Detroit, MI Posts: 202	Re: How long before we see an LT1 in our trucks It'll be in a 67-69 camaro first, if it hasnt been done already.

01-09-2015, 09:12 PM	#3
sammygroundzero Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: pharr tx Posts: 32	Re: How long before we see an LT1 in our trucks I sold a longblock for 2k

01-09-2015, 09:32 PM	#4
BP Automotive Registered User Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Columbia, KY Posts: 26	Re: How long before we see an LT1 in our trucks We are working with one of our big customers, he purchased a LT1 crate late last year from GM. At the time he was the ONLY person to have purchased a crate from GM. He has some connections! Anyhow, we are just about finished with our Gen V R&D. Once that is taken care of, he will get it up and going on his engine Dyno. Im sure it wont be long after that he will send pictures of it in one of his customer's cars! They already have installed one in an older stingray, but that was a GMPP deal there. Bill

01-09-2015, 10:36 PM	#5
ivorton74 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: South Dakota Posts: 916	Re: How long before we see an LT1 in our trucks Well looks like they putting one in Jimmie Johnson's 71 Corvette....http://www.chevrolet.com/culture/art...corvette.html# Those old corvettes just look awesome. __________________ 1983 C10 Silverado 5.3 swap 1974 C10 lwb 5.3 swap(sold)...http://67-72chevytrucks.com/board/sh...d.php?t=614122 2001 BMW 530i 5 speed 2019 Nissan Titan SV Midnight 1979 Datsun 210 4 door 1980 Datsun 120y(back home in Trinidad)

01-10-2015, 03:42 AM	#7
ivorton74 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: South Dakota Posts: 916	Re: How long before we see an LT1 in our trucks Looks like u can buy a 4L70e trans from chevy performance to work with the lt1 so at least we know the older trans works...wonder how a t56 would fit on there? I was looking at the motor and i dont think the stock exhaust manifold would work on our trucks...i could be wrong.. Attached Images __________________ 1983 C10 Silverado 5.3 swap 1974 C10 lwb 5.3 swap(sold)...http://67-72chevytrucks.com/board/sh...d.php?t=614122 2001 BMW 530i 5 speed 2019 Nissan Titan SV Midnight 1979 Datsun 210 4 door 1980 Datsun 120y(back home in Trinidad)

01-10-2015, 09:23 AM	#8
Andy4639 Old member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S. Posts: 19,945	Re: How long before we see an LT1 in our trucks On the 2013 Hot Rod power tour you could buy the whole thing. Motor, trans, wiring everything from the GM tent. They had people there that could tell you anything you wanted to know about it. Complete kits where around $25,000 if I remember correctly. __________________ 1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver Seeing the USA in a 71 Upstate SC GM Truck Club 2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour http://upstategmtrucks.com/ Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun! It sucks not being able to hear! LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB! After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.

01-10-2015, 06:59 PM	#9
BR3W CITY meowMEOWmeowMEOW Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: MKE WI Posts: 7,128	Re: How long before we see an LT1 in our trucks See I'm assuming every project has been with a crate motor right? I can't imagine people have had too much luck with a pullout for something like that. I don't see ultra-late-model vette's in the wrecking yard much lol __________________ *'66 Short Step / SD Tuned / Big Cam LQ4 / Backhalfed /Built 4l80e / #REBUILDEVERYTHING* MY BUILD THE H8RDCPTR //\\ MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL REV J HD

01-11-2015, 11:19 AM	#11
Hart_Rod ************* Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pensacola, FL Posts: 17,859	Re: How long before we see an LT1 in our trucks I think the "footprint" of the LT1 is the same as the LS engines. __________________ Rob - https://www.instagram.com/hart_rod_c10 As Iron Sharpens Iron, So One Man Sharpens Another. Proverbs 27:17 FOR SALE: DBW pedal bracket - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=651123 FOR SALE: Hood Brackets http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=679945 1987 Silverado SWB - 34.5K original miles http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=801834 1969 SuperBurb - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=200387 1968 Farm truck - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=358692 1968 SWB - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=551258 1948 Chevy - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=122164&page=3

01-11-2015, 03:38 PM	#13
BR3W CITY meowMEOWmeowMEOW Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: MKE WI Posts: 7,128	Re: How long before we see an LT1 in our trucks No I mean if they are ending up there, someone else is getting a phone call before me. You won't "just happen to find" them too often, at least not where I live. Milwaukee doesn't have the wealth-density that maybe the Chicago area does, it might be different if I tried there (but I'm not really looking lol) __________________ *'66 Short Step / SD Tuned / Big Cam LQ4 / Backhalfed /Built 4l80e / #REBUILDEVERYTHING* MY BUILD THE H8RDCPTR //\\ MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL REV J HD

01-15-2015, 10:13 PM	#14
boostedc10 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Detroit Posts: 748	Re: How long before we see an LT1 in our trucks IMO it will take some time to really see them in projects. First you have the new ECM but I think the bigger struggle will be with the direct injection in performance applications like the addition of a turbo. __________________ Brandon Instagram: DRVFSTR Current Project: Beatrix - 1967 SWB LQ4/78mm Turbo/4L80e/ on bags Build thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=634691

01-15-2015, 10:36 PM	#15
aknovaman Registered User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Tecumseh Posts: 355	Re: How long before we see an LT1 in our trucks There are tons of them on car part dot com starting at $3k. __________________ Current project 1959 Willys = GEZR TRUK Geezer is a Latin compound word made up of two roots. Gee meaning Urine Stain and Zer meaning your pants are open! FMCDH GBU and GBA http://www.youtube.com/user/aknovaman/videos

01-15-2015, 11:50 PM	#17
boostedc10 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Detroit Posts: 748	Re: How long before we see an LT1 in our trucks Hart you are right on how to tune them, I was more talking the software to do it. On the direct injection side I am talking about the physical injector being the road block for a little while. __________________ Brandon Instagram: DRVFSTR Current Project: Beatrix - 1967 SWB LQ4/78mm Turbo/4L80e/ on bags Build thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=634691

01-16-2015, 11:33 AM	#20
Wasted Income Boosted Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Mackinaw, IL Posts: 2,200	Re: How long before we see an LT1 in our trucks I just hope that LT1 performance parts don't end up costing what Duramax performance stuff does. $1600 for a hot-rod CP3 pump.....$4200 for a set of 20% over injectors... I got out of the diesel performance game years ago due to the ridiculous costs of modding a direct injection deal. Makes building a high-zoot big block chevy deal look like a bargain... __________________ 1972 2wd K/5 Blazer Turbocharged 370 LSx - 941 rwhp / 1093 rwtq 1969 Chevy K-10 L33 5.3 / 4L80E / NP241 / 4" lift 1964 Buick Skylark Twin TURBO 383 LS pro-touring project 2014 VW Passat TDI - Daily Driver Turbo diesel 2015 Sierra Denali HD Duramax Turbo diesel 2023 Ford Explorer ST - Twin Turbskis 2023 Ford F150 RCSB - Whipple Supercharged 2017 Polaris RZR Turbo 2014 Nor-Tech Center Console - Twin Supercharged Outboards *TURBO ALL THE THINGS!!*

01-17-2015, 07:40 PM	#22
BR3W CITY meowMEOWmeowMEOW Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: MKE WI Posts: 7,128	Re: How long before we see an LT1 in our trucks I usually get to play with versions of HPT before they see normal release, so I'll gladly let you know what I hear in the pipeline. While I'm not a pro tuner, sometimes it pays to know someone who is. __________________ *'66 Short Step / SD Tuned / Big Cam LQ4 / Backhalfed /Built 4l80e / #REBUILDEVERYTHING* MY BUILD THE H8RDCPTR //\\ MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL REV J HD



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01-17-2015, 10:30 PM	#23
aknovaman Registered User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Tecumseh Posts: 355	Re: How long before we see an LT1 in our trucks Picked up 43 rear wheel horse power on a totally stock truck last month. Power is in the fueling unlike the lsx factory pcm's. __________________ Current project 1959 Willys = GEZR TRUK Geezer is a Latin compound word made up of two roots. Gee meaning Urine Stain and Zer meaning your pants are open! FMCDH GBU and GBA http://www.youtube.com/user/aknovaman/videos

01-17-2015, 10:33 PM	#24
boostedc10 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Detroit Posts: 748	Re: How long before we see an LT1 in our trucks Ya that's the case with most DI motors. Problem is when you need more fuel and pressure, then it gets expensive! __________________ Brandon Instagram: DRVFSTR Current Project: Beatrix - 1967 SWB LQ4/78mm Turbo/4L80e/ on bags Build thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=634691

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